There’s a moment in almost everyone’s sober journey when the confusion hits.
You’re not drinking.
You’re white-knuckling your way through cravings.
You’re showing up, doing the thing everyone said was the hardest.
And yet… you still feel overwhelmed, emotional, lonely, or stuck.
Listeners tell us all the time, “People keep saying it gets better once you start doing the work. I am doing the work. Why do I still feel awful?”
This episode goes straight into that tension. Julie, Steve, along with guests Dave Rushing and Sean Rollinson talk about the confusion, the early misconceptions, and the real inner work that makes sobriety sustainable.
Watch the full episode now, or keep reading below for the insights and stories we explored during our conversation.
“I thought all I had to do was not drink.”
Dave opened the conversation with the belief many of us have at the start.
“To simplify it, I thought I just had to not drink. And then you quickly realize the work is way deeper than just putting down a drink.”
Sean remembered something similar. For years he believed the problem was only alcohol, not the weed, pills, or anything else he used to manage his emotions.
“I really thought the expectation at first was just not to drink. I wasn’t reliant on other things. But I was. I was avoiding the way I felt in every way possible.”
And Steve remembered the sting of hearing people say quitting was the “easy part,” especially when early sobriety felt like emotional chaos.
“When someone said quitting was the easy part, my reaction was, ‘How dare you tell me my experience isn’t hard.’ I didn’t know the work was gonna be talking about what I felt, connecting with people, or calling a friend when I was struggling.”
Sobriety reveals what alcohol protected us from: our own emotions, fears, insecurities, and unhealed stories.
The Real Work Happens After the Drinking Stops
Once the physical habit starts fading, the deeper layers want attention.
Julie reflected on the turning point in her own journey:
“I literally thought all I had to do was take alcohol out of my life and keep living the same way. That’s exactly why I ended up going back to drinking.”
The real work is emotional and relational.
It’s learning to sit with feelings you used to numb.
It’s realizing your thoughts aren’t facts and learning to challenge them.
It’s discovering what triggers shame, anger, or fear.
It’s learning how to connect with people instead of hiding behind a facade.
As Sean put it:
“I have to learn how to live with this brain that functions differently than other people’s. The drinking was just a short-term solution. The real work is raising emotional and social intelligence.”
Self-Reflection as a Life Skill
One big theme of this episode is reflection – slowing down long enough to understand what actually happened inside you during a hard moment.
For Julie, journaling became the doorway into that work.
“I’d get through whatever happened, then sit down the next morning and ask: What was I feeling? Why did I respond that way? Am I proud of how I handled it? What could I do differently next time?”
Steve talked about learning self-reflection in community. Listening to Julie share her own reflections helped him see what the process could look like.
“I didn’t know how to do any of that. I learned because you were willing to share how you examined things.”
And Sean tied it together with a therapist’s lens:
“Awareness is the foundation of emotional intelligence. When you shine a light on something, the byproduct is peace.”
Courage, Community, and Asking for Help
Every guest circled back to this: no one grows alone.
The group talked about how terrifying it can feel to ask someone for support, especially when you believe you’re a burden or interruption.
Steve described it perfectly:
“Since when did I become that important that I could interrupt someone’s day because I needed help? I had to make myself that important.”
Dave echoed how reaching out changed everything:
“You have to be willing to ask for help. You don’t realize there are people like us waiting for you to reach out.”
Sobriety blooms in rooms where honesty is welcome and connection is encouraged.
What Life Looks Like After Doing the Work
When everyone reflected on how their lives have changed, the gratitude was unmistakable.
Dave found ownership and confidence.
“I spent years blaming other people for why I felt the way I felt. The biggest benefit is realizing it’s me versus me. I get to choose how I respond now.”
Sean found authenticity and freedom.
“I wasn’t an honest drunk. Now I don’t have to worry about what I said or who I pretended to be. I can be myself. If people stay, I know they’re staying for the real me.”
Julie found self-worth and genuine connection.
“I spent most of my life not liking myself. Now I really like who I am. And that lets me show up in relationships in a real way instead of trying to earn approval.”
Steve found self-belief.
“If something happens that’s out of my control, I still control everything I do afterward. That changed my entire life. Now I can bet on myself.”
This is the payoff of the work. Not some polished version of who you think you should be, but a steady return to who you really are.
A Closing Invitation
If you’re in that early stage where everything feels messy and uncertain, remember this:
Where you are now is not as good as it gets.
The work isn’t punishment.
It’s the path that brings you the peace and happiness you’ve been looking for.
And you don’t have to walk it alone.
As Steve shared during the episode, our Monday support group meets every week and you’re welcome to join us. You can learn more at by clicking here.
Your story is still unfolding. The work you’re doing – even if it feels like it’s barely noticeable – is shaping a life that will feel worth waking up to.
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This post is based on Episode 170 of Through the Glass Recovery Podcast: Here’s What “Doing the Work” in Sobriety Actually Means
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R. Sean Rollinson, LPC
Licensed Professional Counselor | Emotional Intelligence Educator | Founder of Enso Counseling & Coaching
R. Sean Rollinson, LPC, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, emotional-intelligence educator, TEDx speaker, and founder of Enso Counseling & Coaching in Scottsdale, Arizona. With over 20 years in personal recovery and clinical experience in mental health and addiction treatment, Sean blends clinical expertise with lived experience to help people break the emotional patterns that drive addiction and relapse.
He is the creator of the Mastering Emotional Intelligence™ (MEI) system and the developer of Relapse Prevention Through Mastering Emotional Intelligence™, a six- week program used in treatment and aftercare settings to strengthen emotional stability and reduce recidivism. His TEDx talk, “World Peace is Not a Political Process – It’s a Personal One,” highlights his core message that emotional healing is the foundation of sustainable recovery.
Sean lives in Scottsdale with his soulmate Jana (pronounced Yana) and their three children—Parker, Payden, and Paulina—who remain the most important part of his life and his true calling at the end of the day.
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